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Vegan Samhain plans...

2006-09-24T16:22:33Z

I'm doing something exciting for Samhain this year...
(Before Samhain, on Oct. 22, in Pittsburgh, PA):

I'm hosting an event called "Dancing Souls".
The first part is a fundraiser for Vegan Outreach. My bellydance students and I will perform Sacred Dance and Halloween-themed bellydance pieces at a performance show. $5 donation to get in...The door person is a vegan personal chef, and will give everyone a homemade vegan Halloween treat, and a copy of "Why Vegan" on the way out.

Following the dance show/fundraiser, I'll be teaching a workshop (Halloween Bellydance Choreography workshop, for use in ritual or at spiritual gatherings for the sabbat). $20

Details are here:
http://healingartsbyamethyst.com/SamhainDance.html

For Autumn Equinox, I'm going to a freind's ritual and party...with vegan potluck. :)
One friend is bringing organic, sulfate-free wine, which I've never tried!

Anyone else doing something fun and vegan for Autumn Equinox and then Samhain?

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my website

2006-01-20T14:26:31Z

My website now has a "Vegan Living" page. It also has information about Sacred Dance Workshops I'll be co-teaching, bellydance and massage therapy.

Home page:
http://healingartsbyamethyst.com/

Anyone else have a vegan, pagan and/or bellydance website?

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160 groups demand end to whaling

2006-01-10T07:20:19Z

160 groups demand end to whaling
www.whalewatch.org
links to all these groups at the top under coalition members link

boycott Gorton's fish (vegans boycott all fish companies)
.. owned by Japanese whalers
www.greenpeace.org/usa

VEGAN RECIPES
www.vegweb.com/food
www.ivu.org/recipes
www.vegsource.com/recipe
http://www.meatout.org
http://www.goveg.com

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may GODDESS return ....

2005-12-27T17:07:02Z

Blessings to all , may The Great Mother Goddess of endless names and forms activate and manifest Her holy Shakti I AM presence in us and outside us , may the gregorian new year 2006 mark Her glorious return !!! thank you for .... being ! best wishes , a starseed lightworker & Goddess devotee
Jai Maa

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Common Religious Excuses/Veg. issues

2005-12-06T21:26:02Z

These have been my experiences, will you please share yours? I might sound rude, like I am judging groups of people, but please keep in mind that I am sharing MY EXPERIENCES, not saying that ALL people under each religious category are the same!!!:

Pagans-
Common Excuses for eating meat: "My ancestors ate meat" and "I'm connecting with the (factory-farmed, tortured) animal", "I'm ____, we have eaten meat since the beginning of time" (Fill in the blank with a (sometimes LIE such as "Native American", "Polish", or any other ethnicity. People use every ethnicity under the sun as an excuse for their meat-eating).

A lot of pagans are vegan or vegetarian, but a lot are not. The ones who are not veg. are usually atleast considerate of the rest of us, although sometimes not. Sometimes ArrowMoonHorn can't have his ritual without his dead animal parts to eat, wear, play with, and sing to...but most pagans are atleast somewhat considerate of veg(etari)ans among them.

Catholics-
Common Excuses: "Jesus ate fish", "Fish don't feel pain", "God created Fish for us to eat on Fridays"

My own personal experience with Catholics and veg(etari)anism has been mostly negative. Nuns at my school would threaten me with the idea of going to hell if I kept "being ungreatful" and not eating the meat on my lunch tray when I was a child. They literally told me that ungreatful children who don't eat their meat go to hell and burn in the eternal fire.

They told me children in other countries are starving and it's a sin not to eat my meat since those children need it. I told them, in a very Honest way, that I wanted them to send my food to those kids everyday since I don't want or need it. I was being sincere, but they thought I was being sarcastic and I got into a lot of trouble for what I said. All adults around me constantly told me that the bible says animals are here for us to eat, and that is their only purpose.

I had ONE teacher who wasn't a nun, and she called herself vegetarian, and she took me under her wing and told me that different people read the bible differently, and to her it says that we are supposed to take care of the animals, not eat them. BUT, she ate fish. That's the typical catholic thing to do, from what my experience has shown me...Call yourself vegetarian, but eat fish because "Jesus ate fish". I am surprised, in an institution where the English language must be spoken properly, even by 5 year olds, or punishments will be given, that the adults would mis-use words and make up their own meaning of words. I'd have to write 100 times on the board if I mis-used a word. She should have had to write "Fish are not vegetables" 100 times.

I've met many many catholic people, and so many of them call themselves "vegetarian" but they eat fish, and often EVERY and ANY sea animal, either using Jesus as an excuse, or by saying "Fish don't feel pain", or "My doctor told me I'll die if I don't eat fish" or one of the other stupid excuses on the list.

NOTE: If sin exists, it was a BIG SIN for the nuns to make me eat meat. After all, MEAT is the reason I got e-coli as a 5 year old child, fell deathly ill for 3 months, and had no use of my kidneys, liver and spleen. Good thing I lived. I wonder how those nuns are doing today, and if they believe in karma yet.

Jewish people-
Common Excuses: (Don't be offended, I'm NOT making this quote up, a friend ACTUALLY said this to me!!!!),
"We Jewish people make up our own definitions for words such as vegetarian, and it can personally mean whatever it means to each person",
"Us Jewish women are princesses, and can call ourselves whatever we want to!"

Some of my Jewish "Vegetarian" friends eat FISH, and that is where the above statements came from...

Jehova's Witnesses:
Common Excuse:
J.W.: "In the new world, everyone will be vegetarian, because the sin of killing will be no more"
Me: "Well, if you know that it is a sin to eat meat, why do you do it now, and wait until the new world comes to stop sinning?"
J.W.: "Preaching vegetarianism is not going to save people and let them into the new world, and introduce them to "The Truth". We can't waste our time on that, when we should be spending it preaching The Truth and giving more people the opportunity to live forever in the new world.
Me: "I thought you are supposed to try and "be good" and not sin now, while you are alive in this world, and that will increase your chances to be chosen to live in the new world, so why not stop eating meat if it's a sin?"
J.W.: "It's a waste of time, we'll all be vegetarian in the new world".

Atheists:
Common Excuse:
Nothing matters anyway. We're all going to die.

General Christians:
Someone actually said THIS to me once:
"I'm vegetarian all year, except on Easter, when I eat LAMB with my church, to symbolize the "LAMB OF GOD". Easter is big in my church, and I am in charge of serving lamb to everyone each year, so I have to eat it, too."
COMMON Answers when I question their meat-eating:
"God put the animals here for us to eat"
"God loves you"
"Jesus loves you"
"God and Jesus love you"

Yes, that's right. The question was "Why do you eat God's creatures, and pay for them to suffer so that you can eat them?"
The answers I got to THAT question were the answers listed above, such as "Jesus loves you"...that doesn't answer my question at all.

POSITIVE things:
*A Christian Vegetarian Group exists, and they spread the word to live a good life and not eat animals.
*African Hebrew Israelites are VEGAN, some of them own the Soul Vegetarian (Vegan) restaurants! :)
*A lot of pagans are vegetarian or vegan
*Aren't Hare Krishna's vegetarian, too?
*Meat and cheese analogs are improving over time, introducing more people to a positive experience with alternatives.

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Thanksgiving Plans...

2005-11-23T21:32:53Z

http://www.peta.org/AutomatedCards/CardFiles/Pages/PreviewFlash.asp?CardID=veg24

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Using found antlers in ritual

2005-11-12T14:40:04Z

How do you feel about using antlers or other animal products in ritual if the person found them while taking a walk in the woods?

I wouldn't use them regardless. I feel that I don't know how the animal died, what kind of energy the found item holds, etc. But, I have heard people at rituals claim to have "fallen antlers" and other "found" items, and that they had nothing to do with hurting/killing anyone.

I think if someone found something they can use it if they want to, no problem. But for me, I don't feel comfortable using it myself.

What are your opinions?

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Please add photos!

2005-11-12T14:19:39Z

I'd love to see more than just my fairy posted! Anyone have photos you want to post in our tribe? Pretty please....

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hunting gods, etc.

2005-11-12T14:14:40Z

I've always thought it was interesting at public rituals when everyone is singing about a hunting god or something like that. In my own head I block out those parts of the song we're singing and hear it differently...like instead of "Herne, Herne, horned one, hunter 'neath the morning sun" I hear "Herne, Herne, horned one, la, la, la, protect the animals in the wild"...

While everyone else is being thankful to a hunting god, I'm being thankful to a god that watches over and protects animals.

Anyone else?

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Meat at public rituals

2005-11-12T06:18:22Z

How do you feel about attending a ritual if afterward the food will include non-vegan foods?

It makes me cringe. I don't like to attend such rituals knowing that nearby the energy of the ritual is a table of animal foods.

I am lucky enough to have a circle of friends who do vegan-only potlucks after rituals. But, I know everyone isn't as lucky. What are your situations, and how do you feel about it?

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pure vegan ecovillages

2005-11-12T06:13:34Z

add any info the tribe will be updated soon !
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pure vegan ecovillages

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Samhain reviews?

2005-11-08T20:52:11Z

How was your Samhain? What did you all do? Any fun parties and/or cooking?

My dance troupe had a few performances, we did a spooky Dracula choreography (bellydancing). Our musician, Maurice Rickard remixed a dracula song for us, added some electronica to the background. It was way fun. We wore masquerade masks for the dance. Also, I did solo dancing with a black veil.

I didn't make one yet, but now I'm craving pumpkin cheesecake (vegan, of course!)...Yum.

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Vegan energy alignment

2005-10-28T19:26:15Z

Was wondering if there are any significant energy shifts from going Vegan. I am phasing into Veganism right now from Pescatarian. I remember (15 years ago) dropping meat and chicken from my diet allowed me to feel more in tune with nature, but I was not as aware and awake then as now.

So, I am mainly wondering if there is greater energy in relation to gaia and warrior energy such as wanting to be more vigilant and activist like or more mellow as relates to veganism.

Hrm, not written as well as I would like but I hope you get the point :)

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Loans/grants for vegans?

2005-10-28T18:52:22Z

Sorry for those who are in all the same vegan tribes as I am...Sorry to post this everywhere, but some people are in one tribe but not another...

Does anyone know of any organization or charity that will give loans or grants to vegetarians to go to school? I am looking into a couple of things that came up when I did a search, but the more options the better.

I want to go to the Natural Gourmet Cookery School in NYC (they said I can take all veg classes), but I got turned down for the ONE loan they offer through the school (Sallie Mae) because of "not enough income" (so, in order to get a loan, you have to NOT need one) and "bad credit". Anyway, I have no co-signer as my parents are both on disability for health problems and can't co-sign for anything.

Anyway, boo-hoo, yadda yadda, I'm screwed and would appreciate any helpful information that anyone might have.

Thanks.

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Humans becoming vegan, evolution, etc.

2005-07-27T19:55:17Z

To start a philosophical conversation about this topic, I'm asking your opinions, thoughts and beliefs on the subject.

Do you think that humans were originally vegan (Adam and Eve in non-pagan religious stories must have been vegan before "sin entered this world"...but Adam and Eve story aside for us pagans, maybe humans started by eating plants)?

Do you think we've evolved from other animals? Have we evolved from carnivorous animals, and so we all used to eat meat...or have we evolved from herbivore animals, which is why some of us are so drawn to being vegan?...OR have we evolved from a variety of animals, some herbivore, some carnivore, and some omnivore, making today's humans a mixture of the three?

Do you think we are still evolving and some of us faster than others, and that is why some of us are evolving into vegans? For example, I have 13 teeth on the top row and 13 teeth on the bottom row (less teeth than the average meat eater). I also have thin teeth which wouldn't be suitable for meat-eating. Sometimes I wonder if this is for an evolutionary reason. If I ate meat, my sensitive gums would be injured. I know all vegans don't have the same mouth structure that I have, but still I wonder about these things.

Do you believe that it's a spiritual rather than physical evolution we are going through?

There are so many different things you can believe as far as this subject goes, please share your ideas.

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organic farm gig in Rye NY

2005-07-26T07:57:16Z

New York
Organic Farm Manager for new farm in the Hamptons. Berries are planted--rest now in rye. This is ocean front property--total 43 ac. Three 5ac lots on water will be developed. 25 acres will be in melons, tomatoes, greens and berries. Short term, house provided offsite. Longterm, house onsite and possible bunkhouse for interns. Will construct greenhouses, processing area for jams and sauces, stand for selling to public. 50k w/ house provided
Listing Number: 010
Posted Jun 30, 2005

www.heartlandcaregivers.com

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Veganism in the work place.

2005-05-16T18:08:49Z

We are having a birthday celebration for one of my co-workers today. My supervisior ordered me to slice some meat. I told her that I'm a vegetarian and I really couldn't do that. She said I don't have to eat but I did have to slice it.

I need my job. It's my only source of income.

I need some suggestions on how to handle this situation, if it should arise again.

Fungirl

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Festive Food Favorites

2005-05-13T09:08:22Z

Spring Equinox...we don't eat eggs (chocolate, marshmellow, or pretty dyed ones) or milk chocolate bunnies...any of you have some favorite foods you eat for celebration of Spring Equinox?

Does a company make vegan easter candy? Cadbury eggs, chocolate bunnies, Peeps...peanut butter cup eggs that have tons of p.b. in them...Geeeeeeeez, Come on, Vegan companies--make this stuff vegan!!!!!!

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vegan drums

2005-02-28T22:20:39Z

I'm in bellydancing tribes and we've been discussing vegan drums vs. animal skin drums. There's been a lot of good posts on the subject, and I'm wondering what you all do about the drum situation.

Some people swear by animal skin drums, even if they are vegan. I've met a few vegans who use animal skin drums. Others suggest vegan drums and some kind of gel pads that make them sound as good as animal skin drums.

Until there are more vegans everywhere, it's hard to do everything right. I am a bellydancer, and I buy cd's with drumming music on them, and I know I'm buying cd's from people who use animal skin drums, and I'm dancing to it. I hate to think about it. Then if there are live drummers at a performance, they use animal skin drums and I dance to it.
It makes me feel icky if I think about it, so I try not to think about it.

Until there are enough vegans around me to have all vegan dance and musician troupes, all vegan pagan groups to use all vegan drums during rituals I attend...I have no choice but to dance to animal skin drum beats. It makes me really sad. Not like vegan policing, but drumming and dancing for me is very deep and spiritual and it bugs me big time to know I'm doing something so spiritual but dead animals are involved.

Any comments? Please tell me your thoughts on the matter.

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